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October 9, 2009

You must Disable or Remove Adblock to visit this website, no Thanks!

Filed under: adblock — dafi @ 4:28 pm
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Today visiting a website that gives invites for Google Wave I received the message shown below

disable_adp

This is the first time I see a similar “invite”

Well, no thanks I prefer to move away from this website, period!

About these ads

17 Comments

  1. I would think the website is within rights to display such a message.

    A part of the deal of consuming free content that consumers forget is that the person/company providing the content has a right to try and recuperate it’s costs.

    While I am anti abusive and obtrusive adverts, I plan to never install adblock as it seems to be counter to my ethical standing on how the web should be.

    If a website has obtrusive adverts, I will choose to not visit it over blocking its revenue stream.

    Comment by TheRaggedyEdge — October 9, 2009 @ 4:43 pm

  2. I prefer a non blocking message, maybe some explanation about the need to recuperate costs.

    Comment by dafi — October 9, 2009 @ 4:48 pm

  3. Maybe the message will go away if you disable JavaScript too! :)

    Comment by Dan — October 9, 2009 @ 5:27 pm

  4. I struggle between whether AdBlock is good or bad. In any case, I’m interested in how something like this is accomplish. How does one detect a plugin?

    Comment by Ryan Rampersad — October 9, 2009 @ 7:07 pm

    • Hi,

      to detect extensions take a look here

      Maybe better solutions exist but I don’t know

      Comment by dafi — October 9, 2009 @ 7:31 pm

  5. As I said about the seize and desist for that extension that allows one to skip ad pages, it is fully ethical for the organization to do what they did above, and it is fully ethical to have ABP. One cannot force the others to change directly. One can say “If you use that, we won’t let you use our things.” which is what is going on.

    Comment by Ryan Scott Scheel — October 10, 2009 @ 3:32 am

  6. I think that websites should find better and non obtrusive ways to advertise. If your entire model to recoup costs is to harass the user with annoying ads, then you deserved to get blocked or just die.

    Comment by Omega X — October 11, 2009 @ 6:16 am

  7. I completely understand that websites get their bread and butter off of ads… however… I don’t, never have, and probably never will buy any product or service because of an advertisement. It has never been and hopefully never will be impressive to me that someone has money to pay a good ad agency with good talent to produce an advertisement that moves me. And even THAT is assuming a lot. The fact is, many consumers only pay for products and services based on personal recommendations or even trusted reviewers. What is more to the point is that as an experienced internet user since 1994, I am well aware that advertisements are very often distribution services for malware. In the 3+ years I have been running Firefox with AdBlock+ I have not had one single instance of malware detected on my machines. Now that may seem like a crazy wacky coincidence, and ad apologists can make all kinds of claims about ad-cleanliness, but experience is the rule for me. What you should be asking yourself is not what is legal or what is prudent, but why does this website demand that you view their ad content? Is it because of legitimate concerns about costs, or is this a scam… a website setup with the claims of bringing you some amazing service and really all that they are is a jumpsite for ad content?

    Comment by pjdkrunkt — October 11, 2009 @ 7:55 am

    • This post isn’t against ads but how many websites use them.
      On my site on dafizilla I’ve google ads but it is a little box on the right, if people use adblock they don’t see anything, no problem for me.

      I fight against the sites that block total navigation asking to disable adblock or any similar software, any human activity should be a compromise I enable some ads but you don’t block my navigation.

      Comment by dafi — October 11, 2009 @ 8:06 am

    • You’re kidding yourself if you think you’ve never bought a product because of their advertising. We’d all like to think that we’re immune to advertising because on the whole it annoys us, and while you might not click a link and buy something directly, you definitely are affected by it.

      When you go into the store, for example, you make a choice between products on the shelf, and I defy you to say you always choose products you’ve never heard of. You buy products you think you know, even if you haven’t tried them, because their advertising has made you feel you have a relationship with them. This might sound like a stretch, but it’s exactly what happens.

      If there are two brands of milk, one called ‘skdxkcg’ and the other called ‘qwerty’, you’re at some point going to choose qwerty because you have a feeling that you ‘know’ the brand. That’s because the advertising has, possibly over the course of a while, been making the product known to you, if only just the name.

      The same applies on the web. If you see an ad for a widget a hundred times, you might never click on it. But if one day you were looking for a widget but couldn’t find one and the ad presented itself, you might well click on it.

      Or you make a mental note that here’s a provider of widgets. You might not buy immediately, but what they’re counting on is that when you’re faced with the choice of ‘Widget’s widgets’ and ‘XYZ widgets’ you’ll choose the one you’ve heard of.

      As for reviews, lot of adverts will contain some form of 2nd opinion, review or recommendation that says ‘it’s not just us saying this is good’. But can you trust these either? Many of the ‘recommendations’ out there are solicited by the ad companies to people who have an interest in pleasing the advertisers. (Many ‘review’ sites are even run by the owners of the products or their affiliates)

      As for your comments on malware, I think you may be right, but I don’t think a site will block you only because they want to infect you. There may be other reasons, such as there being absolutely no point in you being there if there’s no opportunity to sell you anything. Harsh, but true. It wouldn’t even be worth the chance of you recommending them to someone, because since you don’t see their ads, you’re already highly unlikely to do so anyway.

      Honestly, if advertising didn’t work, do you really think they’d spend all that money on it?

      Comment by al — November 13, 2009 @ 12:50 pm

  8. Oh the tired abuse of “free” argument.

    Is the content free? Then why the ads? Why the complaints about adblocking?

    Not giving it away? Are you sure? It’s on a public viewable system.

    Don’t want the public to see it without making money? Protect it will a billing system.

    Cretinous hypocrites all.

    Comment by Seth — November 1, 2009 @ 10:35 am

    • Even if the content is “virtually free”, there are costs associated with hosting etc that need to come from somewhere.

      Mostly pull them out of their own pocket, especially if they are small. However, there is NOTHING WRONG with them if they that the content is supplied with unobtrusive ads rather than without in order to cover such costs and more.

      The only “cretinous hypocrites” are the ones who then come onto the site, block the ads and still consume the content – if I ever find a sites advertising not to my liking, I would like to think it is MY decision to not visit it, to go somewhere else.

      Comment by You — November 1, 2009 @ 6:39 pm

  9. Google’s wave is a data miner’s wet dream. Ads are pure icing on wave.

    Comment by Seth — November 1, 2009 @ 10:37 am

  10. whatever the argument may be, ethical / un-ethical or free / paid content I do not support ads, as they dont make 99% of the people buy products off the internet. It is just illogical. For those who think you can make easy money of blogging etc sites, well start looking for paid blogs. Dont think that people intrinsically expect you to get paid for what you do online, make a move yourself by moving to a paid site.
    Reiterating my point, even if you move to a paid site i will never visit a site that says “you have adblock installed screw you” and i will not visit your paid site unless it has stuff of the utmost importance to my existence. I guess this pretty much means that leave free blogging and get a job, or write a book. Dont hate the world if you cant prove a point.
    Free stuff means really free stuff without any bounds. If you dont believe in providing free content online dont expect people to visit your “FREE” website, you’re not worth it.

    Comment by junk0 — November 8, 2009 @ 8:33 pm

    • While adverts may not be a good way to earn a living for most site, what they will do at a minimum is cover *some* of the hosting costs.

      Just like you will walk away from a site telling you to remove adblock, I would consider it to be of equal nature if you are blocking the ads that they are putting up.

      If you don’t like the ads, walk away from the content. it is rather simple. As a consumer you have that choice. Playing it both ways is pretending to take the high ground while all you are doing is leeching – the work on the site may be mediocre or poor, but if you really think that, you had that chance to walk away.

      As for “my free site” – its just a place holder and I do not expect to make any money off it ever. I do not care if people use adblockers, at the same time I personally refuse to use one as I consider it unfair to the content creators.

      I am not encouraging sites to block people with adblock, but I am encouraging those that use adblock to consider what the consequences of their actions really are.

      “Free stuff means really free stuff without any bounds. If you dont believe in providing free content online dont expect people to visit your “FREE” website, you’re not worth it.”

      ^^ If that was really the case, you would simply avoid the sites in question instead of needing to use adblock to get to the content without seeing any adverts. There is no high ground.

      Comment by You — November 9, 2009 @ 7:01 am

  11. Looks like it’s becoming a trend on the internet… http://www.block-adblock-plus.com/

    Plus with what’s in the news with Google News restricting access it seems the fair way. The age of ‘free’ on the internet is ending: get used to it.

    Comment by Block Adblock Plus — December 3, 2009 @ 11:40 pm

  12. lol if internet website start making you pay for stuff then nobody will use it. plus there will always be ‘other’ ways to get whatever you need.

    Comment by vcv — December 31, 2009 @ 3:04 pm


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